The Eat at Joe's Kawai K5000 Message Board Digest Using ADD Morf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Morf? Friday, 05-Jun-98 19:00:05 199.86.33.71 writes: Anybody get morf to work? It just seems to mix the harmonic profiles together; I don't hear any motion at all. leiter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Morf? Saturday, 06-Jun-98 17:51:18 209.214.60.54 writes: From what I've gathered, the second and third sets in the group would have to be very different from each other for the motion to be audible, since it just 'wiggles' between those two to create the motion effect. (I have a Korg Wavestation, and this seems similar to the Vector Envelopes it can make, except that the WS uses mixing to achieve what the K5000s does directly via interpolation of additive harmonic groups. The WS does the same 'wiggling between' patches, though you can select more variations in what is included and their timings.) More information would be nice about this thing. Of course, being a glutton for punishment, I'm converting .wav files to additive via SoundDiver and trying to morf between them. I'll let you know how I do when I actually get somewhere with this! Terry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Morf! Sunday, 07-Jun-98 17:23:59 195.232.49.197 writes: Hi Leiter and all fans of the ultimate additive synthesis experience! You should know a few facts that are not explicitly mentioned in the K5000 manual: MORF creates new DHE values from existing (imported) DHL values, nothing else. The morf is calculated for the selected ADD source only, so if the morf is to be applied to all sources, you have to repeatedly select a source, edit the parameters and press EXEC. Once the morf is executed, you can change back to NORMAL mode and visually check the results, for example in multiview mode. Switch to MORF again to make adjustments as often as you like. The DHL values of the target patch are not changed, so the morf is best to be heard if you set the DHL spectrum to "flat". You can manipulate the DHL values later, in NORMAL mode. The DHE values of the origin patches are not taken into account for the morf, so the DHE curves of the origin patches may confuse you when you make your selection. Better listen to the sources by copying them to a dummy patch that does not use DHE. The 4 morf time values are correctly transformed into the 4 DHE rate values. (Here is the time/rate calculator we have been looking for! But how can we use it from outside? Any ideas?) The morf drawing would be clearer with an additional "Phase 0" (with all zero levels) on the left side, so that you could see the 4 transition times: Attack,Decay1,Decay2,Release. Why does nothing of this information occur in the manual? Ask Kawai... Happy Morfing! Jens Groh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Morf! Sunday, 07-Jun-98 21:43:48 199.86.40.68 writes: >Once the morf is executed, you can change back >to NORMAL mode and visually >check the results, >for example in multiview mode. Switch to MORF >again to make adjustments as often as you like. I'm specifying four harmonic level sources and four times, but it doesn't seem to be executing the Morf. Do you use sound diver? leiter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Re: Morf! Monday, 08-Jun-98 08:48:44 194.172.230.108 writes: No, I don't use SoundDiver... I don't know what's wrong with your morf experiments, mine were successful. Have you selected the right 'origin' source numbers and patch numbers? One gets easily confused with that. Strangely, these patches have to come from the same memory bank as the one being edited. The DHL spectra of the 4 selected origin patches must appear in the 4 DHE phases' level spectra after morf execution. Verify that in the DHE/Multiview menu! Note that DHE spectra have a level range from 0 to 63 only. DHL values between 64 and 127 are mapped to this range, lower values are cut off. A DHE level scale numbered from 64 to 127 would have made more sense. One more recommendation: It's more convenient to prepare a special "test bench" patch: copy the desired (origin) sources first to sources #1...4 of the test patch; source #5 (the 'target') is reserved for the morf. Sources #1...4 get flat DHE curves, source #5 gets a flat DHL spectrum. The target source is muted in order to pre-listen and edit the 4 origin sources without having to switch between patches. Once they are ready to be morfed, mute them, select and un-mute source #5, execute the morf (with #1...4 of the same patch set as origin sources) and check the result. Hope that helps... Jens Groh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Re: Re: Morf! Wednesday, 10-Jun-98 11:14:13 192.28.2.16 writes: > Have you selected the right 'origin' source > numbers and patch numbers? One gets easily > confused with that. Strangely, these patches > have to come from the same memory bank as the > one being edited. Aha! SoundDiver thinks they have to come from the A bank; fine if you're in the A bank, but I've been working in D. Thanks! leiter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------